Let’s Talk About Plagiarism
Hello, my name is Kristi, the Story Siren and I am a plagiarist.
Those are the last words I ever thought I would write when I started my blog in 2007. Plagiarism is despicable, it is cheating, it is stealing. I would never do that. And yet I have.
How did it happen? I’m not really sure I realized I’d crossed the line I’d been so adamant against, but I did. I suppose it happened because there was something I wanted to say, and I couldn’t find the right words to say it. I was asked a question about a blogging topic and went in search of inspiration. I came across a couple of posts that seemed like I could have written them myself — they expressed exactly what I wanted to, in the way that I wanted to. I wanted to make it relevant to book bloggers. I knew I couldn’t use their words — not exactly as written — so I added words of my own and subtracted a few of theirs. In my mind, I had done enough to make it mine; it was my voice. But I was wrong. I screwed up.
And I screwed up even more when they called me on it. I tried to deny it, because I didn’t want to believe it myself. I tried to keep it private, because I didn’t want to be judged. But when it all came out anyway, that just made everything seem even more deceitful. I should have admitted I was wrong right away. But I didn’t.
Now it is up to me to fix it.
I wasn’t sure how to do that. Then an author contacted me and suggested I look at this as an opportunity. She said, “A lot of young people, bloggers and writers read your blog, and all of them have probably walked that plagiarism line at least once, whether they are willing to admit it or not. We all like to think plagiarism is black or white, this or that. But the truth is, it can be tricky. When you are a student who is assigned to regurgitate someone else’s thoughts and opinions in a paper, or a blogger trying to explain why you liked or didn’t like the same book that a hundred other bloggers are also writing about, or if you are a writer chasing the latest trend in publishing … it’s not that easy to come up with something that is the same — but different.” She asked me to consider hosting a discussion about plagiarism, to help all of us figure out what it is, why it’s wrong, and how we can all avoid doing it in the future. One of the things I’ve learned from this experience is that I didn’t really know what plagiarism was. I want to educate myself and anyone else who is interested.
I was afraid to do it at first. I’m still afraid. Calling even more attention to myself right now is probably not the smartest thing I’ve ever done. But I have a duty to make up for my mistakes and right my wrongs. Even if it hurts, that is what I intend to do.
So …
For the next week I want to talk about plagiarism. I’ve invited several people to share their experiences and expertise about plagiarism. And I invite all of you to chime in: readers, writers, bloggers, teachers, librarians, anyone who has something to say on the subject. Let’s get this thing straight once and for all.

Dare You To
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Coranne
Twitter: coranne
Thanks for doing this Kristi- I hope some great conversation comes out of it!
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Wicked Lil Pixie
I haven’t said anything on your blog about this whole issue, but you keep digging yourself further and further. And once again, you didn’t say one word: sorry.
You posted this AFTER the author guest post but formatted the time so it looked like you posted this first. Not cool. There was no explanation in the guest author post, leaving her to take the brunt of the comments of WTF. Again, not cool.
Though it’s very ironic that the related post is “pretty little liars”.
Tara @ Hobbitsies
Twitter: hobbitsies
Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Kristi commented on the other post explaining that for whatever reason, this post didn’t go up as scheduled. It was a weird technical glitch and it happens all the time.
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Wicked Lil Pixie Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Forgive me, but I’m not very trusting of anything TSS says right now. It’s easy enough to say that it didn’t get scheduled but she can easily enough back date a post after backlash.
Parajunkee Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
This is my first time also and I’m agreeing with Wicked Lil Pixie all the way. This could have been handled so much better. If you would have posted this first, some would have seen it as courageous, now it just looks bad and poorly implemented.
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Wicked Lil Pixie Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Agreed. And it’s easy enough to say something didn’t post, when you noticed the backlash.
Joey Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 2:54 pm
You are misusing Irony. Like the things in the Alanis song, it is a coincidence.
The post by Sarah Cross should be first, and The Story Siren should “present” and set up the guest post.
Wicked Lil Pixie Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Excuse me for misusing a word, big deal. The only words that should be defined on this post should be PLAGIARISM & SORRY.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Shiloh Walker
My question would be this… are you going to keep comments unmoderated and have you made a full, open apology to those you stole from?
One that doesn’t include the words… “I don’t know why I did it” and “I don’t know where it came from”. Because that’s making it this about you.
It’s not.
You stole. And you hurt people.
I’ve been plagiarized and you need to make it about the people you hurt from. Instead of apologizing YOUR actions… have you just APOLOGIZED. Directly. Full up front…
I’m sorry. I screwed up. Plain and simple.
I haven’t seen that. There’s a difference between a real apology and one that tries to excuse your behavior and the real apology comes from after you’ve examined what you did.
Catiebug (Escape to Wonderland) Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 4:33 pm
She is only human just like you or I. She made mistake and it’s human nature to not want to admit to it. Don’t act like you haven’t done it before. All that matters is she apologized.
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Shiloh Walker Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Sure, she’s human. And yes, she made a mistake. A sign of a mature, decent human is acknowledging it…trying to learn from it, and own those mistakes. When I make mistakes, I admit them. I apologize. And I apologize to those I hurt without trying to make it about me.
But maybe I’m one of those who don’t come from this “It’s all about me” culture.
If she really wants those who aren’t her fangirls to take this seriously, she has to realize she’s going about this wrong, and she’s going to have to rethink this.
That means… serious soul-searching.
A real apology. One that doesn’t include excusing her actions. But a real one.
Absolutely it’s human to screw up and try to hide it… but the humans with dignity and class and STRENGTH actually go above that. Because they realize it’s not about them. It’s about the people they hurt.
However… Kristi…I will admit this…I’m surprised you’re letting many of these comments through.
If you really want anything positive to come of this, you need to quit trying to take the stance you’re taking and re-think it.
That real apology, the one comes without excuses, without rationalizing it away…it needs to happen. Until it does, again… this is just window-dressing. You’re putting a pretty dress on something that’s decaying.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Philip Weiss
So will you be explaining this week how this was “tricky”? Because I fail to see it explained here.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Candice
Twitter: grownupya
Very proud of you for doing this, Kristi. It takes a lot for someone to admit that they’ve done something wrong and true courage to accept the consequences that come with it. We’ve all made mistakes on our blogs, whether conscientiously or not, and I think what you’re attempting to do is a great example of how to make restitution for your mistakes. Major kudos on this and good luck this week!
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Heidi
Twitter: hmz1505
Thank you for this post Kristi. I appreciate your honesty.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Tara @ Hobbitsies
Twitter: hobbitsies
You kind of rock. This is exactly what SHOULD be done.
Educated and honest discussions about plagiarism are always needed – they don’t seem to happen often enough, and I’m excited to see what comes out of this.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Friedelchen
I’ve been plagiarized once and I remember how I was sooo angry, I wanted to rip of that person’s head. Worst of all, the person denied everything and made up stupid excuses, even with evidence right in front of her nose.
That’s why I like the way you handle it, open and honest. Of course “I’m sorry” won’t make people forget it, but at least your admitting you did wrong. I appreciate that.
azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Open?
Asking the victims to keep quiet is open?
Honest?
Still making excuses, including the “I don’t know how it happened” (as if plagiarism was a pimple, suddenly popping up into existence without conscious decision or free will involved at all), is honest?
I guess I need a different dictionary.
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Catiebug (Escape to Wonderland) Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 4:35 pm
To be honest, it isn’t anyone elses business BUT Kristi’s and the other people involved. When you make mistakes, does EVERYONE have to know about it? No. It got out so she had no choice but to come out. Had the other people been ADULTS about the situation, they would’ve handled it privately.
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azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 5:06 pm
So stealing six times over is ‘a mistake’ that everyone makes?
And the victims should be adults by pretending they weren’t victimized?
Huh. Interesting reality, that.
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Kara @ Great Imaginations
Twitter: Kara_Malinczak
Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Wrong. As a former follower of this blog, it is my business. When she offers the victims a full apology, then I will reconsider my stance. Not until then. And if it truly is none of my business, then why are you here? You certainly aren’t one of the victims, and I am pretty sure you aren’t Kristi. Not to mention, she is doing a week of plagiarism posts. I think she just MADE it everyone’s business.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Karin
Twitter: life_of_karin
I thought a lot about writing this but I saw the necessity to say something. I think that adressing this topic takes a lot of courage – yes, it is wrong (I don’t deny that) but saying that you did something wrong takes a lot of bravery and taking all this bashing takes a lot more.
We all know that plagarism is wrong and we all know that we must give credits but responding to this issue after it happend and taking all the accusations takes a lot too.
So thank you Kristie for your honesty!
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Felicia
I commend you for trying to fix your mistakes, but what really irks me the most is when you say that everyone has walked the plagairism line at one point in their lives. How do you know that? You aren’t everyone. And does that sentence help justify what you did?
Jasmine Rose
Twitter: ARoomWithBooks
Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 4:54 am
She didn’t say that, it’s quoted in what the author who contacted her said.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Kelli
Will you be having the people you plagiarized from on your “plagiarism week”? Wonder what they think of how you seem to be using your actions as a way to get more attention?
I, along with everyone else who used to look up to you as one of the most prominent YA book blogs, am still waiting for a heartfelt apology.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Kathryn
I agree with that author. Plagiarism isn’t cut and dry. Think about Saturday Night Live’s skits for example. When they did the spoof on The Hunger Games was that plagiarism? They took someone’s idea and made it their own. Is there more gray to plagiarism than people think?
azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Plagiarism and parody are not the same thing, so your example is quite out of place here.
And no, there is no gray in plagiarism–creating something NEW from someone else’s idea is perfectly fine. Copying and pasting with minor cosmetic changes is outright plagiarism. That’s what Kristi Diehm, plagiarist, did.
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Kathryn Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Yes, I know that’s what Kristi did. I didn’t say otherwise. I was just adding to the discussion.
Maia Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:47 am
you need to calm down. this post wasnt there to directly and personally attack YOU. im sixteen and the adults ‘discussing’ this? its pretty childish if you ask me. she said she was a plagiarist. first line. ever heard of forgivness? its not moving on or ignoring what she did, but accepting her apology and not throwing it in her face.
Jennifer Bielman Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 8:23 am
I agree with you. I just wish she would have done a post were she directly apologized to the ones she stole from. But I do appriciate her admitting she straight out plagiarized.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Tiah
But you still haven’t said sorry to the ones you stolen from. I really don’t know how to take your blog seriously anymore. I’m done.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
azteclady
Are you going to address your fans actions regarding your victims?
Are you ever going to tell them that YOU willfully and cold-bloodedly stole Beautifully Invisible and Grit and Glamour’s content?
Are you ever going to admit that you knew exactly what you were doing–given that you wrote that very pointed post on plagiarism that you then deleted?
Are you ever going to tell your followers and fans that attacking the victims while trying to support you is even lower than your own despicable actions?
Or is this just another strategic move to garner sympathy without admitting your own deliberate malfeasance?
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jay Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Cold-bloodedly?
It isn’t murder here.
azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 5:08 pm
No, it’s theft.
Premeditated and cold blooded.
Not something that “just happened” to Kristi.
It’s something Kristi DID to Beautifully Invisible and to Grit and Glamour.
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Tori Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
EXACTLY. Kristi STOLE. She has finally admitted it but she has not apologized. And every post has been to get sympathy from her fans. She hasn’t even asked her rabid fans to please not bully the victims. Who are victims because she STOLE FROM THEM. She knew what she was doing. And no matter how many times she claims it was an accident, it wasn’t. She needs to apologize properly before I’ll ever respect her again, if that’s possible.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Dulcy
I’m extremely proud of you for admitting what happened. That takes a lot more courage than most people realize, especially when they’re constantly being watched or judged. What you did, is not something to be proud of, but facing it head on and being honest about it is. I’ve had a hard time with the plagiarism line too in the past, I had to look really hard at what I was saying and what I’d heard/seen someone else say, to make sure I wasn’t just copying what they’d said with different wording. It might not mean much, but I wanted to let you know that I still like you, still believe in you and still look up to you as a blogger. I prefer to dislike the action, not the person. I hope this week is full of many people learning how to recognize and stop plagiarism.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Kristin
Twitter: _kristin315_
Did you screw up? Yes. Could you’ve handled it better? Yes. Is plagiarism horrible? Yes… but so is bullying. I’m not saying what you did was okay but neither is the bullying that you’ve been receiving. You messed up, but in the end you haven’t denied that you plagiarized other sites. Frankly it takes huge balls to not only acknowledge when you’ve been called out on wrong doing, but doing this week long event that is going to draw a lot of attention to you when the issue is still on very thin ice. You have a long road ahead of you to repair the damage that has been done but just be honest and up front with your readers.
Keep your head up.
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Lynda the Guppy Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:56 pm
“Is plagiarism horrible? Yes… but so is bullying. I’m not saying what you did was okay but neither is the bullying that you’ve been receiving.”
And what about the bullying Grit and Glamour and Beautifully Invisible received for being the victim’s of Kristi’s actions? What about how Kristi never once asked her followers to behave in a civil and ethical manner?
I have seen criticism expressed towards Kristi, and for the most part it has been clear, concise, and limited towards a response to her DIRECT ACTIONS, and not to her personally.
What I have NOT seen here is the level of vitriol aimed towards Kristi (the plagiarist) that was hurled at Grit and Glamour and Beautifully Invisible (the victims). I also have not seen Kristi take a stand against that sort of behavior or to condemn it in any way. In the eyes of the law, silence equals consent, and her silence on this matter is considered (by me) to be tacit approval to that sort of behavior. I find that as reprehensible and irresponsible as her original act of theft.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Amy
Hi Kristi.
I feel sorry for you. I’ve never really liked you, out of jealousy or whatever, but I’m actually a bit shocked at some of the comments here criticising you. I think you made a mistake and I don’t think you should be endlessly punished for that mistake forever. Everyone knows what you did, but everyone can make a mistake (error of judgement). I believe, by the way, that even intentionally doing something you know to be wrong, can still be a ‘mistake’. Something you desperately regret and wish in hindsight that you hadn’t done. That’s what I mean by mistake. I don’t know why, I just feel so sad that this whole thing has happened and damaged you. I know it hurt the people who were plagiarised too, but you’re the one who has to live knowing what you did and that people know, and you must live with that forever. So I think people should have a little compassion for you, at least. You’re just a young woman who did something you’re now sorry about. I believe you can recover from this. Don’t let it get you too down. Would you really sacrifice all your writerly ambitions and everything just for this one mistake? You’ve got the rest of your life to live, and this one moment can’t be allowed to define you – or only for the right reasons. Maybe this could be a positive turning point for you in terms of being consciously aware of exactly what words you’re writing. I think everyone could do with that and maybe it will make you a better writer as well (I’m not saying you’re not at the moment). I believe your true voice, your original voice, is one worth hearing. At the end of the day, you’re a human being, and it upsets me to think of you being upset. I hope you’re OK.
Sorry if this comment is a bit melodramatic – I suffer from depression and am feeling fragile and emotional right now.
I also hope I haven’t offended anybody with my words. But Kristi is more than just what she did.
Amy.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Scattered Laura
Twitter: scattered_laura
“A lot of young people, bloggers and writers read your blog, and all of them have probably walked that plagiarism line at least once, whether they are willing to admit it or not.” – This sounds an awful lot like you’re trying to say you only did what everyone else has done at some point. I wholeheartedly disagree. While ideas are always being re-used and recycled, there is a big difference between taking inspiration and crediting someone for it, and taking someone else’s ideas and passing them off as your own. Even GCSE students are taught how to reference their work.
A series of posts devoted to using your misdeed in order to get more page hits… that just seems wrong. You even admit you now see this as an “opportunity”, and many seem willing to praise you for speaking up. To me, however, (and I don’t think I’m alone) this seems more than a little bit tacky.
azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 4:00 pm
*ding ding ding* And we have a winner!
Yes, I think this is exactly what Kristi Diehm, plagiarist, intends–and judging by several of the comments above, she is going to succeed exploiting the willful ignorance of her fans.
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Heidi @ YA Bibliophile
Twitter: hmz1505
Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
You really don’t know her intentions. She used the word “opportunity” meaning an opportunity to learn from her mistake. She doesn’t need more page hits. She is trying to do something good here.
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azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
So you calling me on not knowing Kristi’s intentions…then you turn around and tell me her intentions. So, what? Are you a special butterfly, privy to Kristi Diehm’s intentions then?
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Heidi @ YA Bibliophile
Twitter: hmz1505
Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 11:18 pm
First, There is no need to be rude to me. I wasn’t snide to you. Second, yes, I do know her intentions. I may not be a “special little butterfly,” but I am her friend. Kristi talked to me about this post and this series earlier in the month. I am not willfully ignorant. Kristi made some poor choices. She admits it. Now she is taking an embarrassing situation and trying to turn it in to an opportunity for learning and discussion. I understand that you don’t agree with how she handled it. She admits that she made errors there as well. I certainly don’t hold with those who were/are rude to the wronged parties. There is no excuse for that. I also don’t think that snide and/or sarcastic comments help the situation. They do not further discussion. If anything, they cheapen it. Thoughtful remarks disagreeing (like Scattered Laura’s) add much more. I’m sorry if you took offense to my reply. You seem to have decided nothing she does is sincere. I happen to disagree. She is a dear friend who is human and not perfect. I’ve made poor choices too. I’m not about to turn my back on a friend because of hers.
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Jared @ Infinite Bookshelf
Twitter: jaredreads
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:58 am
I completely agree with Heidi. I don’t know Kristi personally so I don’t know her intentions, but I do believe she is trying her hardest to right a wrong. It’s dissapointing to see people here that just want to put her down. I don’t approve of what Kristi did. It was flat out wrong. I don’t think anyone is trying to deny that. I do admire the fact that she is owning up to her mistake and trying to create a positive discussion about it that can help bloggers understand plagiarism.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
CdnMrs
The problem here is that there still hasn’t been a real acknowledgement of wrong doing. There’s been halfhearted excuses and no actually apology to those who’s work was plagiarized. That’s what has other bloggers upset.
For those concerned that Kristi is being bullied, the owners of the plagiarized content have actually been bullied. They have received hate mail from the Story Sirens readers. (Check out Smart Bitches Trashy Book’s posts on the subject)
What she’s receiving is a rebuke from other bloggers, blogger’s whose intellectual legitimacy has been questioned thanks to this fiasco. It’s not bullying it’s a call for accountability.
I hope that Kristi is able to regain her status as a reputable blogger. However, this particular way of going about it, prior to an an out and out apology to the victims of her plagiarism, was maybe not the most well advised.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Sophie
Hey, I liked this post. At least you are owning up to the fact that you made a mistake and tried to fix it. A lot of people don’t try to fix it or confess. What a great topic for people to talk about.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Emily @ Falling For YA
I think a lot of you are really missing the point of these posts and what Kristi is trying to do. Yes, she made a mistake but all of this attacking is just bullying and I find that really distasteful. The YA community has always been very open and accepting and it feels like now that one person has made a mistake everyone is on the attack.
Yes, plagiarism is something to be concerned about but the author in the guest post and Kristi make a good point. Most people have committed plagiarism whether intentionally or not. Trust me, you don’t make it through college without borrowing someone’s ideas. Whether you don’t cite enough or your comma isn’t placed correctly in your quotation that can be thought of as plagiarism.
Needless to say all of these “attack” comments are just showing the true colors of the poster. I know, I read a few of your blogs and will not be doing so anymore. While plagiarism is bad, bullying for the sake of bullying is worse in my opinion.
I think it is time for the YA Blogging Community to start to heal and become better for what has happened.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Arianne
I don’t even want to take sides in this battle anymore. Before, I wanted to sympathize with you because of the bullying you’re getting. Then I see the other comments of people criticizing you in this post. There’s always going to be something that people will find wrong with what you’re doing.
My question is, why bring it up again? It’s just extending the issue more and more. It’s been a couple weeks since I’ve seen a post about this, and now here it is again. Instead of everyone almost forgetting about it and moving on, we are reminded again of what you did wrong.
I get it that you may want to be a spokesperson or whatever, but on this topic? Is it even worth it?
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Nica
Kristi, this post I believe. I never thought you intentionally plagiarized, but this is what should have been said in the beginning. Plagiarism is a very fine line – I look forward to reading about everyone’s experiences and thoughts on the matter!
Mindy Wall
Twitter: dreamer2229
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 1:48 am
NICA,
I am apparently the only blogger who totally missed the whole initial situation and totally didn’t see any flack on anyone from Krisi’s reader, but I wanted to commend your post. I agree with you. I don’t think any of this was intentional, and believe me I’ve seen that. I’ve taught middle school and college and had whole papers blatantly plagiarized. I think the idea of a series of posts aimed at educating our readers (and aren’t we all here for our readers?) is a great idea.
Kristi,
I admire your decision to admit your wrong doing and take accountability for your actions. That takes maturity.
And to all the rude, angry posters:
The fact that she is willing to leave your horrible comments up and not respond with anger and hurt show even more maturity. You cannot criticize her for something you were not involved in. An apology, if one is given, is between the parties involved… not you.
Kristi, Keep up the good work of educating our readers and hold your head high knowing you made a mistake, owned up to it, and can move past it. As Jesus said in the Bible (and no I don’t know the exact verse… deal with it) “Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.”
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Steph Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 am
I only disagree with one thing, and that is that I think we were owed an apology to her readers because we read it. We thought it was hers. We were lied to.
My opinion wasn’t asked, but I just wanted to give some insight.
Jess Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Typo! Sorry, I accidentally added “that is that” to my comment.
Jess Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Oh, and I forgot to remove my sister’s info from the comment box thing! I just want to make it clear that all comments made from her name are by me.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Catiebug (Escape to Wonderland)
Honestly, I think all the nasty comments are COMPLETELY uncalled for. SHE MADE A MISTAKE. All of you need to stop acting like you’re high and mighty and better than everyone else. You say she should’ve done this or that in the situation, but if it had been YOU, you would’ve done what she did. Stop acting like your perfect. We’re all human, we do things, make mistakes and we don’t always want to admit to them. Everyone does it so don’t act as if you don’t. She admitted to what she did. End of story. Let it go and get over it. You’re all acting like high school children. Grow up.
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Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 am
This is exactly how I feel. It is ridiculous. I know I have made mistakes in the past and thank goodness I haven’t had to fess up to them on a highly followed blog. It also irks me that people are attacking not only Kristi, but those who are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Allie Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 1:55 am
I agree with you! She made a mistake. To be honest, if I was caught doing something wrong, I would want to resolve it privately, who wouldn’t? Both sides have said/done things that are uncalled for. Can we stop the hate mails, the rude comments? I agree that Kristi should write a post that directly issues an apology to the bloggers that she plagiarized from. I disagree with those who are attacking her idea of a week of talking about plagiarism. Both parties need to come up with a truce to end this once and for all. Not so this will be forgotten, but so both sides will STOP hating each other.
Jess Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 6:18 pm
How do you know if we would have done the same thing? Yes, we are all human. Yes, we all make mistakes and are not perfect. But we are all different. That is also what makes us human.
How do I know that we wouldn’t do the same thing? I don’t. I just disagree on the fact (that seem to be implied) that we are all the same and have the same reactions just because we are human.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Chelsey @ Starry Sky Books
Twitter: starryskybooks
You did mess up, but this is an awesome post. I’m glad to see that you want to do something like this, to move forward. But I do think it was wrong on the part of those other blogs to make it obvious who had plagiarized them, since you’d all come to some arrangement. But they still left up identifying features in their screenshots, so the whole shit storm that followed was partially their fault. But it’s good to come clean about it, and I’m sure that will be appreciated.
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Kara @ Great Imaginations
Twitter: Kara_Malinczak
Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Their fault? You are victim blaming now?? FANTASTIC.
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azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 am
Want to wait with me for ANY reaction from Kristi Diehm to this comment?
Or to any comment of a similar tenor anywhere Kristi Diehm’s plagiarism is mentioned?
Or any reaction to the known fact that some of her fans/friends/followers are writing hate mail to Krsiti Diehm’s victims?
I predict a very, very long wait indeed.
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Chelsey @ Starry Sky Books
Twitter: starryskybooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 10:43 am
They made an agreement with Kristi about this situation. They didn’t hold up their end of the agreement. That is their fault. It’s not their fault they were plagiarized, and you know that’s not what I was saying.
Beautifully Invisible Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
You are incorrect. As part of our “agreement” we had asked Kristy to post a public apology on her site because we felt her readers and the authors she worked with deserved to know what had happened. She asked that we not force her to do that and we complied. We never said we wouldn’t use what had occurred as a teaching moment on our own blogs. In fact, we omitted any reference to her personally as a kindness. Given that our two blogging communities have little overlap, we never expected her identity to come out and were surprised when it did – months later.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Alison
Twitter: AlisonsBookMrks
I guess most people are not ready to talk about plagiarism, because they’re not done punishing you yet, Kristi.
Since I have seen Kristi do more overall good for the blogging community, I believe the score is still in her favor, and I am choosing to forgive and move on.
It does no one any good to hold on to all this anger. We could have an interesting, intelligent discussion, but, once again, it’s turned into a bullyfest.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Lisa Loves Literature
Twitter: Buffywnabe
I also feel that what you’re doing is a good way to try to make up for what you did. As a middle school teacher, my students deal with plagiarism issues every day, and don’t understand why it is so bad. Unfortunately you have kind of turned into the “face” of that for now, but I like that you are going to try to talk about it and help others with it. As someone who always struggled with research papers in school, I mean, if I’m taking someone else’s information, shouldn’t every sentence I write basically have to be cited as from the original author? Even if I completely change it into my own words? I always hated those types of papers in school, I preferred opinion papers and things I wrote that were all my own.
I agree that things do seem like you’re being bullied, and that sucks. Here you are, using your own words, and it seems even that won’t make everyone happy. I think you should do your best to get through this week and do your best to show what you think needs to be said on this topic to help others.
I think you’re being brave, and this is definitely a step in the right direction.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Lauren
What I want to know is whether you included the people you plagiarized from in this week-long educational exercise? If you really want to discuss the ins/outs of plagiarism and educate your readers it would only make sense that they would be included.
I hope we’ll see some input from them on this blog. If so I think you’re on the right track and might actually be on the path to “blogging salvation.”
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Sarah (Inklings Read)
Twitter: inklingsread
Kristi –
Thank you for making yourself accountable for your actions. I think it is important as a role model in this community. I wish you would have come out with this earlier, but honestly, I’m not sure how I would have handled the situation had I been in your place. It’ll be an uphill battle for you, but know that you have my support in regaining the trust of the book blogger community. Sometimes good people make bad decisions. It happens. Not that I’m excusing what has been done, but you were my inspiration from the start, and I’ll continue to follow your blog. I look forward to reading the posts on this topic this week.
Sincerely,
Sarah (Inklings Read)
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Penelope @ The Reading Fever
Twitter: readingfever
Timing/scheduling of the posts aside, I’m glad you came out and said what you did, in no uncertain terms. I’m not sure if even this can fix what happened–I still can’t support this blog, on pure principal–and I’m not so sure about the effectiveness of these posts on plagiarism, but this post, at least, is a good start.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
The Bookie Monster
What really irks me is that some of you guys won’t let her make it right. I think she knows by now what she did wrong. I also think she’s making an effort to fix it. I know people were hurt by her, but does bullying her make you feel better? Does hurting someone else alleviate any of your pain? She did something horrible, but what you’re doing is not much better. There comes a time when people need to put on their big girl panties and decide that they’re better than hating people for the sake of making themselves feel better. Hating people gets you nowhere, no matter what they did to you. Trust me. I’ve been there. I think it’s time that we put down our guns and start seeing each other not as enemies, but as people who just love to read.
To the victim: I’m so sorry. No matter what the circumstances, having something you worked hard on stolen is a horrific crime. And it hurts. And you deserve an apology. But just know that letting go is so much easier and only when you have let go can you let your wound start to heal.
To Kristi: Thank you for trying to make it right. Laying down your pride and dignity to admit what you did is hard and humiliating, but it’s a start. I just hope that you know that there are people out there who have always appreciated you and know that you are strong and know that you can get through this. And you can. And you will.
I’m ready to return to the blogging world I fell in love with. The one where a group of people got together because they shared something in common: they loved books. This blogging community wasn’t made to steal and gossip and hate. Nothing is. And honestly, this whole topic is kind of making me question whether or not I ever want to blog again. And that’s just sad. So please please make an effort to fix the problem, not start another one. Everybody has a right to their opinion, but just know that there are people behind those computers. People with feelings not unlike your own.
I miss what we used to be. If we ever want to return to normalcy, common courtesy needs to start here and now. Who’s with me?
Tori Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Is she wants to make it right, she needs to apologize to the people she stole from. And she needs to do so without pretending it was just a misunderstanding and that she didn’t realize she was doing it. Because she did.
It’s that easy. And yet she hasn’t done that.
I find people in the book community, as with anywhere else. are very forgiving. I know I am. But before forgiveness can happen, there need to be apologies.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jen D.
Twitter: notnowimreading
So much for the whole boycotting thing.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Tori
To those saying we should forgive and forget: Everyone is willing to let Kristi make it right. And to do so, she needs to put on her big girl pants and apologize to the two bloggers she stole from.
It’s not hard. She needs to say “I stole from you and I’m sorry.” She needs to stop making excuses, claiming that plagiarism is something that can just happen, and that she was unaware of what she was doing at the time. She was aware. And if she’s sorry, she needs to say to the people she victimized.
For bonus points, she could tell her rabid fans and followers that bullying the victims that she victimized isn’t helping anything, and that would really get her on the right track.
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azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 8:07 pm
This, exactly this.
No excuses, no rationalizations, no explanations, no “I don’t know how it happened” BS.
A true apology doesn’t include half-assed excuses, rationalizations, justifications, explanations, etc.
Jenny
Twitter: intothemornrds
Reply:
May 24th, 2012 at 9:57 pm
I feel she also needs to apologize to all of us whose credibility was shot thanks to her representation of us as a community to the publishing world. If someone with such a large following & important contacts in the publishing world can’t come up with her own unique content then the rest of us must be even worse!
On Monday, May 21st 2012
BookChic
Twitter: bookchicclub
I’m gonna try and keep this short. Kristi has apologized MULTIPLE TIMES in MULTIPLE POSTS AND TWEETS. The fact that a whole lot of you are somehow blind is not her fault.
Kristi, this is a wonderful idea for a week-long discussion and I wish more people were mature enough to actually discuss this instead of continuing to hate on you and not furthering any sort of discussion.
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Tori Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
She apologized to her followers. That’s step 1. She needs to extend the apology to Grit & Glamour and Beautifully Invisible. Either in an e-mail or on her blog, but she needs to apologize to them. She’s very close to moving on. That’s the last step, and if she does that, I will accept that she’s done everything in her power to make it right again. It’s not hard. It’s a dumb little thing but the people she stole from deserve that much.
Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:42 am
I don’t mean to sound rude, but are you Grit & Glamour or Beautifully Invisible and know that she hasn’t hasn’t apologized privately?
azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 am
I don’t mean to sound rude, but here you are: in Grit and Glamour‘s and in Beautifully Invisible‘s own words.
Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:00 pm
I don’t follow either of those blogs, nor will I. I am not a fashion person. It was an honest question. I don’t understand why you have to be so hostile. You aren’t really helping anyone.
Steph Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 2:29 am
Kate, despite the “I don’t mean to sound rude,” you do sound a bit snarky. Just an honest opinion.
BookChic
Twitter: bookchicclub
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
In my opinion, she’s apologized to everyone involved and uninvolved and people need to move on from this because it’s just silly to keep hating on her. Yes, she made a huge mistake, but she’s done all her apologies and all this aside, she’s still done a HUGE amount of good stuff for the YA community. I just don’t get why people still can’t can’t forgive.
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Jess Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 3:05 am
Because she still hasn’t called off those sending hate mail to Beautifully Invisible, Grit and Glamour, etc. She could stop that.
BookChic
Twitter: bookchicclub
Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 pm
She never told them to start doing that, so why is it her problem to fix?
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Jess Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
I am not saying that it is. I am not saying that she has to. But I hate to see both sides getting bullied. The least she can do is ask one side to stop. If her supporters are willing to take the time to write out hate mail, they will definitely take the time to listen to her.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jay
There are many ways you could’ve dealt with this. As some have suggested, you could’ve chosen, from here on out, to ignore the issue of plagiarism. You could’ve hoped time would make people forget. But if you truly are sorry, and if you want to discuss the issue head-on as a way of making things right, then I’m glad you made the more difficult choice.
Yes, words matter. But more important than specific words are their meanings. I would rather have someone explain why they are sorry than simply say the word. Triple-checking the definition of Sorry, I cannot agree that you haven’t expressed it very clearly through this post. You admit that what you did was despicable, and that you should’ve handled what came after differently, and that is absolutely saying you’re sorry.
But are you actually sorry? Only you know that. Are you handling your apology perfectly? It sounds like there are varying ideas on what you should be doing. But if you are sorry, then you should be doing what you think needs to be done. If that’s not enough for others, then whether or not they think you understand and feel sorry for what you did is up to them. By now, if you follow their way of apologizing, there will be those who say you’re only doing it because they made you. Apologize from your heart. Anything else is insincere.
I am not standing up for what you did. But if you now see that what you did was wrong, and you are trying to make things right rather than hoping we all forget, then it would be cruel to say I won’t allow you to grow from this. And I would be cruel to myself if I didn’t allow myself to forgive.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Tammy
You have kahones my dear! Good for you having the bravery to continue to educate both yourself and others. I started reading the comments then had to stop because people are freaking redonkulous. Please remember there are those of us who have read what you say and while it sucked what occurred understand we are human. Just wait until some of them are raising kids who make mistakes – would they be ok with someone leaving comments like what they have on their kids page?? Keep on trucking girl
Jess Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 am
Kristi is not my child though.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jessica Bolton
Twitter: bookrockgoddess
I believe that everyone makes mistakes and it is how you handle it that defines who you are as a person. I believe Kristy that you are trying to fix your mistakes the best way you know how. I hate that there are people out there that aren’t willing to forgive and forget. No one should be bashing anyone else because as far as I can tell no one is perfect and mistakes happen to everyone. How would they like it if their mistakes were laid bare for all to see? How would they feel about people bashing them for their mistakes? Hang in there and know that there are people out here glad that you are willing to say your sorry. We all hope to see how you use this to help the blogging community in order to avoid this type of mistake again.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Sarah Laurence
Twitter: SarahWLaurence
Kristi, I’m pleased to see you take ownership of your mistake and even more pleased to see you turning this into a learning experience. That takes courage and humility. What you did was wrong, but what you are trying to do now is a big step in the right direction.
My advice would be to link more frequently. On several occasions, I’ve written a post inspired by yours or another blogger’s. When that happens, I always link to that inspirational post at the bottom of mine. I try to contact the blogger too. Link love is good!
It’s worth adding, that images are under copyright too. Always ask for permission before posting original artwork or photos. An exception to that rule would be book covers or publicity shots of authors, but even those should have the photographer cited. I’m a professional artist/photographer so this is my livelihood.
A related issue is reposting. I recently had an incident where several Hunger Games fan sites were reposting my interview with Kate Egan, the trilogy’s editor. They did not ask for my permission but did at least credit me. That still didn’t make it OK. I asked them to remove the photo of Kate and to post only a short excerpt with a link to my post for the rest. That compromise worked fine for most. It would have been better for them to contact me before they posted. When in doubt, contact the blogger and ask for permission.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Heidi @ heavenisabookstore
Twitter: heavenisabookst
I commend you Kristi. Knowing you will be reading hurtful comments from people on your blog by posting a week on plagerism is so strong. It takes courage to admit your wrong knowing people will not forgive and sadly, will be hateful too. Why are there so many hateful comments? Have we forgotten what it is like to make a mistake (or six)? Are we all perfect? Can we not find it in ourselves to be forgiving? I don’t mean forget. But a little forgiveness, goes a long way. At least Kristi is trying.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
azteclady
This comment is a reply to Heidi@May 21st, 2012 at 11:18 pm (nesting stops at what, four?):
Well, good for you on knowing Kristi Diehm’s intentions regarding this.
From where I sit, your friend has yet to apologize to her victims–yes, the people she stole from–without justifications and explanations and “woe is me, I don’t know how this *happened* to me.”
So long as any of her many pseudo-apologies include any of the above, many of us will know there is no sincerity here, just a shifting of the blame. “It happened” means “it was out of my control.” BS. Plagiarism takes conscious decision and deliberate action. Any implications to the contrary further compound her wrong doing.
As a friend, you may want to point that out to her.
Your friend has yet to tell her fans and followers and friends that sending hate mail to Grit and Glamour and Beautifully Invisible is not only wrong on principle, but a misdirection of anger, since the it’s she, Kristi Diehm, who harmed these two innocent people in the first place.
As a friend, you may want to tell Kristi Diehm that keeping quiet while people who claim to be her fans blame her own victims–and right here in this thread too, just read Chelsey’s comment–is to encourage said abuse.
What your friend has so far done, up to and including this week long “conversation on plagiarism” is maximize her exposure and encourage casual viewers to see her as a victim of those mean, mean fashion bloggers.
Was that her intention? I don’t know. I can only judge the effect of her actions. Saying “sorry” until she can’t talk any longer and her fingers are worn to the bone means exactly zilch when her actions speak otherwise.
So, as her friend, perhaps you could encourage Kristi Diehm to stop obscuring the facts, deflecting blame, explaining her actions, subtly blaming her victims, and going on about her business as if she did nothing wrong.
Because she did and continues to do wrong, if only by her silence.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Sasha @ The Bookshelf
Twitter: bkshelfreviews
Thanks for this post, Kristi. It takes a lot to admit you’re wrong about something and even more to attempt to attempt to fix it, and kudos for doing both and not taking the easy road. Plagiarism is a very grave matter and sometimes I think people don’t even realize that they are doing it (which is not an excuse, however). I can only hope that if I found myself in your situation that I would have the guts and the humility to stand up and admit what I had done.
Others have given you their advice, so I suppose I’ll not reiterate what has been said. But when in doubt, always link to your source. Being a college student with a rigorous academic honesty policy has taught me that it’s better to add all credit than to wish you had down the line. And above all, contact the people you stole from directly, and apologize. They’re the ones that got hurt the most from doing this.
Good luck with everything! I hope it all works out and serves as a learning experience not only for you, but for the rest of us as well.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Badass Bookie
Forgiven and Forgotten <3
xx
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Maia
rabid fans? what? im from australia, sixteen, and unlike some people dont seem to live with every waking thought revolving around Kristi’s plagarism. forgive and forget- doesnt mean ignore or move on in denial. forgiveness is accepting an apology, not condoning it, and then accepting her efforts to talk about whats happened honestly and without some evil intent of gaining more ‘rabid’ fans. for the people whose life seems to revolve around sarcastic and spiteful comments…are you an adult? then please act like one.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
@azteclady – those posts were both from a month ago. Do you know for a fact that she hasn’t apologized since then to either of the bloggers? It is an honest question. A true apology doesn’t need to be publicized by either party.
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Beautifully Invisible Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 7:39 am
If you define apology as “Kristi blocked me on twitter” then yes. If you define it as she humbly took responsibility for her intentional actions and said she was sorry? No. The least we deserve is a real, public apology, but it’s become clear that won’t be happening. Apologies that come with excuses that paint her as the victim in this aren’t apologies.
Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Thank you for the response. I honestly had no idea if she had or hadn’t. However, I don’t agree that apologies should be public. Public apologies are always fake apologies. At least that has always been my experience.
Beautifully Invisible Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:08 pm
Normally I would agree with you regarding public apologies, but in my opinion this situation has escalated to the point where a private apology no longer suffices. Regardless, I think your question was a valid one that deserved to be addressed which is why I chose to break my silence on TSS site. It’s likely the last time you’ll hear from me here, however.
Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Thank you. I just don’t like being attacked by azteclady for being curious about what really happened.
azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 am
Well, now.
First, see this comment by Beautifully Invisible at the Smart Bitches. Does she sound as if a true, honest, unqualified apology ever came her way?
No.
Second, plagiarism is not just between perpetrator and victim. All the people who read those stolen posts and believed them to be the work of Kristi Diehm were lied to.
Six times over.
And now all they are treated to is justification after excuse after explanation of how “it happened” to poor Kristi.
No admission of the deliberate intent involved–and unless you are buying how suddenly plagiarism is “tricky” (which this post, originally posted by Kristi Diehm two years ago and deleted last month, takes out of the question) Unless you do believe that plagiarism just “happens” TO the plagiarist, there is deliberate intent.
But let’s take it further a bit, shall we?
There is ongoing abuse heaped on the victims heads. In this thread alone, there are people claiming that it’s Beautifully Invisible and Grit and Glamour’s fault.
Have you heard Kristi Diehm come out and tell those people to stop?
If she is not doing it in her own blog, what are the chances she has done it anywhere else?
So call me childish, but I’m not particularly willing to believe she is doing all this in private when she cannot come out and do it publicly in her own space.
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Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Again, I don’t understand why you are being so hostile. It was an honest question is there is no need for you to attack people so much. You are being a bully and it isn’t appreciated by anyone. I did not plagiarize. I did not say it was okay that Kristi plagiarized so I do not appreciate your hostile nature towards me or any other commentor here.
azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
I am truly being hostile? Or is it that I refuse to join the chorus of people who are defending Kristi–even though she continues to obfuscate the truth of her actions?
You–the general you, not you personally–and Kristi may be happy to pretend that all is peachy keen now, but the truth is that Kristi never truly made amends with the people she stole from. Don’t take my word for it, check what Beautifully Invisible said up thread right here.
So if I seem angry to you is because I am.
I am angry that a person who holds so much influence, particularly over young people (see comments from some claiming to be 16, and oh so much more mature than us adults), chooses to continue to lie, chooses to continue to remain silent over the abuse directed to the people she stole from.
Kristi’s choices so far anger and, yes, disgust me.
As someone else said while quoting the Bible, deal.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Tara @ Hobbitsies
Twitter: hobbitsies
Everyone seems to be missing the point. This week isn’t to hash up what has already been done, it’s not to generate page hits (I mean, really?), it’s to help generate awareness about an important issue.
If only, for once, we could come together as a community, and have a discussion about what plagiarism means to us, how we can prevent in the future, etc. But everyone would rather rehash what Kristi did, and that’s just stupid. It’s done. There have been hundreds of posts on the subject of it, everyone and their mother have made their feelings known, and all parties involved have spoken about it. Let it go. It’s time to move on and discuss, as a community, how we can deal with it in the future.
But it seems like the blogging world isn’t mature enough to handle discussion – we all like to beat a dead horse, huh?
azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 am
The horse is not dead.
The horse is screaming how it all happened to her.
The horse is quiet, however, on the matter of abuse directed at the people she stole from.
Seems Kristi Diehm isn’t mature enough to apologize. But boy, does she seem to thrive on the excuse, both those she herself offers and those her fans offer, here and elsewhere.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
slayra
Look, I’ve been reading with some amusement all this ‘tragedy’ about plagiarism and the Story Siren (what a bunch of drama queens… everyone, except the people who were plagiarized, it seems). I’ve never read this blog much except the posts about new releases. I’ve just never felt I’d gain much by reading reviews that are as far from in-depth as they can be. But that is the blogger’s choice so I suppose it’s fine. Just stating I was never a “Story Siren” reader.
I don’t know the Story Siren’s author so I’m not going to call her Kristi or whatever. But… to the author of the Story Siren, I will say this: even a foreigner like me knows that what you’ve been doing isn’t apologizing. You seem to be mistaking something: plagiarizing a text because you were too lazy to write your own or because you just didn’t care about the author’s feelings isn’t being a bad person (well, it doesn’t make you a saint, but there are worse things); not apologizing properly and trying to minimize what you did is what in fact makes you a bad person (still not bad, per se, as, let’s say, a jewel thief – I’ve just finished an Agatha Christie book, but you get my meaning).
Just admit it. Just say “I saw these contents written in a fashion blog and I thought, what the heck, most people who read my blog have never read these blogs so why not? I’ll just copy this. It will make my readers happy, it will make me popular and it will save me the time to think about something.” It happens. It’s human. Humans want things that make their lives easier.
Just don’t pretend you were in some kind of transe and did it without full knowledge of what you were doing. That’s being low. Just say “Hello, I am plagiarist. I stole someone’s words because it was convenient and I was an hypocrite about the whole thing. Not my brightest moment, but oh well.”
As of now you are still being an hypocrite. And that is why people are so mad. You’re trying to downplay what you did and that’s just not cool… “I didn’t realise I had crossed the line…”, you say in this post (I’m paraphrasing here) Come on… if you went to college you are very familiar with what is plagiarizing and how to avoid it. You should know it’s not enough to add a few “words of my own and subtracted a few of theirs. In my mind, I had done enough to make it mine; it was my voice.” (Kristi: 2012)
So basically be sincere. People appreciate it and I don’t think anyone will see you in a worse light.
Sorry if I seem harsh it’s just that the way you’re handling things just isn’t right. I feel you’re not really sorry (and it may be that you are… it just doesn’t come across as such).
Kelli Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 11:19 pm
I think you hit the nail on the head! It all feels insincere and that, I think, is why people are so mad. That, and the fact that we feel betrayed by someone so many of us looked up to. I really believe that the purpose of this plagiarism week is to get our focus back on TSS. Because we were all starting to forget a little bit until now.
slayra Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 10:56 am
Well, that is the vibe I get. I suppose I could be wrong since I’m not inside this blogger’s head, but she goes about it the wrong way. I get it… no-one likes to admit they’re not completely and utterly perfect, especially on the Internet where you can usually be super cool and create a whole new persona that you like much more than your real self… but… when you make a mistake you just have to own up to it. I feel like this has become a circus of sorts. When things were calming down, here we have, these articles. They are good in a way, but mostly, not very good. O.o
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Laura K
Hi Kristi. I imagine it is very difficult and humbling to put yourself out there for the possibility of even more flack and degradation. Plagiarism is a sensitive topic that engenders great reactions. Some will say that you deserve it and more. I say we all make all sorts of mistakes– large and small. Probably easier to hide and want to bury our heads in the sand waiting for the massive dust storm to blow over than to stand up and face it. I see someone who is being brave and is seeking to educate herself and her readers. We can all learn from it. Keep being brave.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Sarah
Personally, I don’t know what else the blogging community wants. They rant on and on about how horrible this thing she has done really is, and it was a mistake, but here they are, on her site, commenting on her posts. No blogger will ever reach the success that Kristi has made,and saying horrible things about her won’t make you more popular or more successful, and I think that bugs a lot of people. I think what she did takes guts, and no matter when it was published, at least she has the guts to talk about it, and that is very commendable.
Steph Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 2:50 am
They are just stating their opinion. Most of them aren’t doing it just to be popular. It’s like saying that when someone dislikes something, they are jealous. Why can’t they just dislike it?
Sarah Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 6:28 pm
In my opinion, stating your opinion and bullying are two different things. Most are bullying. Not all, but most. And if they just disliked it, they wouldn’t be pounding her that hard. Furthermore, many refuse to move past it, and that makes me question their motives. Again, it’s just my opinion.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jenny
I just don’t get what’s so absolutely hard about writing a simple, public, “I’m sorry. I admit I was wrong. I should not have plagiarized articles from Beautifully Invisible and Grit and Glamour. To those bloggers, I am truly sorry for my actions. They were irresponsible and reprehensible. It will not happen again. To my faithful followers, although I appreciate your support, it’s very wrong to attack the people I plagiarized along with the people who support them. Please stop.”
See how easy that is? Leave out the excuses and the “I don’t knows” because they have no place there.
If you do this I’d be willing to bet that a.) you wouldn’t lose any of your followers (Hell, you may even gain a few back that you lost), b.) this whole mess would finally go away, and c.) you’d feel like a ten ton weight has been lifted from around your shoulders.
One of the things that saddens me the most is that a lot of your followers are teenagers, not all but a lot, and pretty soon they’ll hopefully be entering college. They need to know how serious this issue is dealt with on a college level. There, you don’t get a second chance. You’re failed and kicked out of the class, period. Sometimes the punishment is even more severe. This is an oppurtunity for you to not only educate your followers but demonstrate a little humility. I think you’re trying, but just not hard enough.
Jenny Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
I wanted to add that had you gone the route of the straight forward apology to the wronged parties, these posts you’re hosting on the topic would’ve carried a lot more impact. By not doing that, you’ve only invited more derision as evidenced by the comments in this stream. Again, I think you’ve made an effort but it’s fallen short of its goal and that’s very sad. The crap-storm has been stirred back up and it’s overshadowing your intent.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
We Heart YA
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We’re not going to touch the original issue with a ten foot pole, but we would just like to say that we think this is a bold idea and we hope that it helps. Kudos for giving it a shot.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Evangeline
Twitter: EvangelineHan
Hi Kristi,
I’m so proud of you for taking this stance against plagiarism. Thank you for coming out and being honest with all of us. I’ve been reading the posts about plagiarism and I must say that although I know quite a bit about plagiarism (it’s difficult avoiding handling plagiarism when one is editing Wikipedia), they are informative and a great help. Kudos for your courage.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Liz
I think it’s good that you are trying to fix your mistakes and make amends, although I’m not sure you’ve selected the best way to do so. At some point you have to move on from your mistakes, know that you have done everything in your power to fix the situation, and take a step back, hoping that your wrongs will be forgiven and someone will still be on your side. Just something to consider as you have this conversation.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Shadowmyth
This is an awesome post Kristi. I think you are very brave person for using this experience and turning it into something positive.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jessica Says
So does all of this shock me?
Not really.
I think we ALL plagiarize daily. Hell, I read a review the other day (posted after mine) that had the EXACT same sentence as mine.
I dont think they stole from me at all, I think we can only puke up the same reviews about the same books so many times before they all sound alike.
What were we to you?
Lemmings that day after day oohed and aaahed over every simplistic review you wrote or giveaway you posted.
At least you are getting the hits you need to stay on top of the game
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jenny
Twitter: intothemornrds
I can’t believe you would honestly try to say that you needed to be educated on plagiarism. You wrote one of the definitive articles on it yourself in which you explained quite clearly that not giving credit for inspiration, which you admitted to doing, is plagiarism. Period. I’m not impressed with this nor with the idea that you could take this debacle of poor personal choices & turn it around as an opportunity for YOU to educate the rest of us who KNEW what plagiarism is already & called you out for causing book bloggers to look even less credible than they already do.
But then I’ve never understood, through all of this, why you would need to go looking for inspiration in the first place when you had seemingly written quite a large number of informative articles on your own already. Makes me wonder if anything you’ve written has come straight from your head. It’s sad.
Natilly Jane Reply:
June 8th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I agree whole-heartedly with this.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Ellen Oh (@elloecho)
Kristi, I hope you don’t let all this negativity get you down. What you are doing with this plagiarism series is excellent and I think you are very brave to do this. Having taught college students for several years, I know plagiarism is 99.9% never intentional. I’m a firm believer in do overs – and I always gave my students plenty of chances to do over their mistakes. I think this do over is brilliant because you are also giving people a chance to discuss the issue openly and from many different viewpoints. And you’re educating those who don’t really understand the boundaries of plagiarism. I’m sorry there are those who can’t forgive. I can only hope that when they make their own mistakes, they realize how important do overs can be and how hard it is to do what you’ve done here. I think you are awesome.
Best,
Ellen Oh
Anon E. Mouse Reply:
May 26th, 2012 at 12:49 am
AND you’re obviously part of the reason why MBAs can’t spell or use grammar properly. 99.9% of plagiarism is unintentional? Uh. No. Plagiarism is a purposeful, continued practice of stealing ideas to make them one’s own. If a student doesn’t realize they have not done enough to formulate their own thoughts from a particular source, that’s an accident that needs educating. When a person visits a blog from a different market from their own hoping no one will notice that they have copied & taken credit for the information on their own blog THAT is plagiarism & it was done ON PURPOSE.
azteclady Reply:
May 26th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Lauren
Kristi, I just want to let you know that there are lots of people out there who aren’t angry with you, and don’t hate you for what you did. I’m not saying that what you did wasn’t wrong because it ABSOLUTELY was, and unlike many people I think that you know that. However, I come from a perspective where I always believe that there is grace and mercy for what people have done, and your situation is no different. All these people that are sitting here behind the shroud of the internet, and hating on you for what you did are simply wrong, and hypocritical for doing so. I’m not saying that they can’t be disappointed, because they absolutely can, and most are. All of us have all done wrong in our lives. Not just once, but thousands, perhaps MILLIONS of times. I believe that we should extend the same grace towards others that we’d like to receive. I’m not saying I’m not slightly disappointed, but I don’t hate you for what you did, and you shouldn’t hate yourself. There will be lots of people who will continue to read your blog when you’re ready to continue. Don’t let it get you down, Kristi
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Natilly Jane
I don’t think the rest of us in this book blogging, or even just the blogging community need to be taught about plagiarism for the next week by you. You’ve already dug yourself a deeper hole and from everything I’ve read that you’ve written so far about the topic, you have no more of an understanding to what plagiarism is and what it means than you did before your “mistake” got discovered. if I’m correct, you knowingly and intentionally plagiarized and sat back and hoped that nobody would ever noticed because you added a few words of your own and subtracted a few of theirs. You’re just using this as another “opportunity” for more views. Sorry, but I don’t think I’m alone in saying that I lost all of my respect for you and I wonder how many other of your posts on here are actually your own, written in your own words, from your own thoughts, views and opinions.