Let’s Talk About Plagiarism with Sarah Cross
What do I know about plagiarism?
I know that when I was a kid, when it came time to write research papers for school, my teachers would tell us to read a bunch of books on the topic, and then “put the information into your own words.” So for years, I thought that writing a paper meant “paraphrase someone else’s ideas, or a bunch of people’s ideas.” I thought that as long as I changed the wording, it was okay. I know now that that’s not the case, but I wonder how many people still think that approach is not plagiarism. Because it is.
Plagiarism doesn’t just mean copying someone’s exact words and passing them off as your own. Copying another person’s ideas counts, too.
LEAVE THE VOICE-THEFT TO URSULA
My writing hasn’t been plagiarized–not that I know of, anyway. But there was a time when someone used a phrase from one of my books in a blog post–not as an excerpt, but as if it was their own wording. It was a weird phrase; no one would put those particular words together by accident. I figured the person had probably read my book, absorbed that wording, and then forgotten where it had come from. It was just a phrase, sometimes that happens, and it wasn’t a big deal.
BUT … I felt like someone had stolen my voice. Those were my words, and someone else was using them. It was a really creepy feeling.
When you plagiarize, and you steal someone’s words or ideas, you’re not only doing yourself a disservice, you’re erasing the creator’s contribution. When we put things out into the world–a story, an article, a piece of art–it’s because we have something to say and we want to be heard. If you’re speaking with someone else’s voice, not only is YOUR voice not being heard (which hurts you, in the long run), you’re preventing that person from connecting with their audience.
If you want to share someone else’s ideas, do it right. Link to that person’s post, or their website, or their tumblr–wherever you found the thing you want to share. Give credit.
And speaking of credit …
ARTISTS ARE PEOPLE, TOO
Words are not the only things on the internet that require credit. I think it’s easy to view photography, illustration, etc. as decoration, especially with sites like tumblr, Pinterest, and weheartit making it so easy to share images that you find online. And I know that a lot of people think that adding a line like “copyright belongs to whoever made this” or “I don’t own any of these pictures” is sufficient, because so long as you’re not claiming ownership, your use of that art is harmless.
It’s not.
The artist deserves credit. If they’ve posted their work online, chances are they’re trying to build an audience for that work. So if you like what they’ve done, why not help them out and include their name and a link to their website or deviantART, flickr, blog, etc.?
If the picture was uncredited when you found it, you can still figure out who the artist is, since Google allows you to search by image. You can upload the picture, or paste the image URL directly into the search box, and Google will show you where else on the internet that picture appears. You might not always be able to identify the artist that way, but there’s no excuse not to try.
IN CLOSING: GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE
The most hurtful thing about plagiarism is that when you steal someone’s work, you ignore their contribution and you erase them. When you use art without credit, you erase the artist from the picture. You’re saying that the work has so little value, the person who made it doesn’t warrant acknowledgment. And that’s not the way anyone wants their work to be treated.
From the Official Author Site of Sarah Cross:
Sarah Cross is the author of the fairy tale novel Kill Me Softly, the superhero novel Dull Boy, and the Wolverine comic “The Adamantium Diaries.” She loves fairy tales, lowbrow art, secret identities, and silence.
If you want to know more about her, read one of her books. Her soul is in there somewhere.
Current art inspirations & obsessions can be found at tumblr, Fairy Tale Mood, or pinterest
For more info on Sarah visit her website: www.sarahcross.com


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On Monday, May 21st 2012
ape
Hasn’t this been beat to death yet on here. How much longer does this topic have to be covered here? I know it is a quest blog but still.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
KB/KT Grant
Twitter: katiebabs
Kristi, I can’t believe you would have this post on plagiarism after everything that occurred about you plagiarizing last month. Seriously, WTF?!
This is very low on your part, and Sarah, as an author, I would expect you to do your research more on the blogs you visit, especially ones that have plagiarized like Kristi did.
This is beyond disappointing and sad.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Sera
Okay, let’s talk about plagiarism. What’s your (yes, I mean you Kristi) opinion when it comes to plagiarism? What is plagiarism to you? I don’t want Sarah Cross to talk about plagiarism, I want you to raise your voice and say what you think about plagiarism and people, who commit such a crime.
To me the whole post should’ve been posted on another blog, on your blog the post just seems out of place. It’s just ridiculous and stupid for you to post such a post. oO
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Ceilidh
The irony of this post being on this website is making me laugh hysterically. Nice display of chutzpah there, Kristi.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
AnimeJune
Um, does anyone else think it’s funny that for a post specifically about giving credit to artists for words AND images, it’s accompanied by an uncredited image of two INCREDIBLY trademarked Disney characters whose artist (Glen Keane and the rest of the Disney animators) hasn’t been credited? Whoops.
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jay Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
She’s not claiming the images to be her own. And it’s common knowledge who the characters are, therefore, no citation needed.
Shiloh Walker Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Actually… I don’t think that’s how it works. Seems like you’re trying to use a creative commons argument and Disney doesn’t go for that.
Wouldn’t take two seconds to say… images copyrighted to Disney.
Seriously, if true thought was going into this, then then attribution should be paid.
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Penelope @ The Reading Fever
Twitter: readingfever
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May 21st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
Common knowledge of the characters in a photo does not negate the need for credit to be given to the artist(s) who created it–especially when giving due credit was the entire point of the post.
Lynda the Guppy Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Also, a fine point to be sure, but Disney has a habit of trademarking their characters, not just copyrighting.
Jenni Elyse
Twitter: jenni_elyse
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May 21st, 2012 at 6:24 pm
You are right citations aren’t needed. Expressed permission is needed. Read #1 of this article.
You need the expressed permission of the copyright owner unless it is used for promotional reasons or released under press kits, such as an image of a book cover, because that qualifies as fair use under US copyright laws. But, this image wasn’t released for promotional purposes and therefore doesn’t qualify as fair use so expressed permission is required.
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Jenni Elyse
Twitter: jenni_elyse
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May 21st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Honestly, though, fair use is hard to define. And, often, it takes a court hearing to decide. But, to be on the safe side, you shouldn’t use images that aren’t your own without giving credit. But, you should also understand that giving credit may not be enough either.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Penelope @ The Reading Fever
Twitter: readingfever
Sarah, this is a good post. I’m glad you mentioned photos and art, because it’s so easy to just take someone’s photo, and use it without knowing any better.
Unfortunately, this was not the right place for this post due to last month’s findings, and it also has the misfortune of being accompanied by a photo that is not credited. I think the irony of this entire situation will outplay any positive effect this post could have had.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Splendibird
Is this some weird form of self-flagellation? I don’t understand. Seriously – it seems a little strange to have this post with absolutely no explanation after the recent drama. Honestly, it all seems pretty distasteful.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Anachronist
But you’ve already said sorry, Kristi! What’s the point of this post? To prove that only now you do understand the meaning of plagiarism?
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Felicia
I realize you must be upset over the whole situation, as well as bloggers copying the IMM meme without giving you credit (I know I was, and I didn’t even help create IMM), but I feel that this was a bad move, and you should have just left it alone after you had apologized.
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Bunny Cates Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 3:17 am
Actually, Kristi didn’t start IMM. It was a meme hosted on another site, and when they stopped hosting it – she took it over. It used to say that somewhere on here. Not sure if it still does or not. She didn’t create it, at all.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
the story site
Twitter: annamariemoore
sorry about the confusion… there was supposed to be an introduction post before this and of course it didn’t go up as planned, this has nothing to do with imm. i have an eleven hour work day today and just noticed on my lunch that the first post didnt make it up, otherwise I would have corrected that much earlier. this is simply an education discussion on plagiarism for myself and anyone else who is interested.
Ceilidh Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
You know, if you actually properly apologised for plagiarism instead of trying to pass it off as some form of accident (accidental plagiarism – oxymoron), there would be less controversy and anger over your clear exploitation of this issue.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Shiloh Walker
I’m probably wasting my time posting this… either it will get deleted, or it won’t get through. Although I do plan on reposting my comments to my blog, so hey.
Anyway… here goes.
You’re doing a weeklong series on education and plagiarizing.
Interesting.
My question would be this… are you going to keep comments unmoderated & undeleted…because there’s no denying you deleted comments. I’m screencapping this and I’ll post it to my blog.
Have you made a full, open apology to those you stole from?
One that doesn’t include the words… “I don’t know why I did it” and “I don’t know where it came from”. Because that’s making it this about you. That isn’t an apology. It’s an excuse.
This isn’t about you, your excuses or your rationale.
You stole. And you hurt people.
I’ve been plagiarized and you need to make it about the people you hurt, the people you stole from… as this guest blogger posted…the people you erased.
You had fans of your blog going after them. Attacking them. Did you once stand up and say, “Guys, while your support is well-intended, I’m the one who screwed up. You shouldn’t be mad at them.”
That would have been the strong thing to do. The good thing. In book terms… the heroic thing.
Instead of apologizing YOUR actions… have you just APOLOGIZED. Directly. Full up front…
“I’m sorry. I screwed up. Plain and simple.”
I haven’t seen that. There’s a difference between a real apology and one that tries to excuse your behavior and the real apology comes from after you’ve examined what you did.
I saw you making excuses. I saw your followers attacking the people who stood up for themselves. And I saw silence on your part while those attacks happened.
If that’s the kind of thing you stand for, then this week-long post on education is nothing but window dressing.
azteclady Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 4:02 pm
The answer to the first question: comments are already being moderated.
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Jennifer Bielman Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 am
I have not once commented about this incident. I figured what had to be said was already said. But this comment made me want to say something. I agree with you. But I would like to add something. Do I hate The Story Siren? No. No point in hating people. It’s a horrible way to spend your life (not saying you hate her, just a general statement). I just don’t respect her actions and I feel sorry for the people that she stole from. I am always willing to forgive someone of a first offense. That is, IF THEY APOLOGIZE. I feel that The Story Siren never really apologized, she made excuses and kinda said she was wrong but in a “it was an accident” sort of way. It wasn’t an accident. I saw the posts she stole from. They were VERY similar in wording and structure. In the end, I don’t hate her and I am not going to refuse to ever go on her site again (though I did stop participating in the IMM), but I don’t respect her or the way she apologized, at all. She made it out as if she was the victim and she wasn’t. The ones she stoled from were.
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Stephsco
Twitter: stephscottIL
Wow, what have I stumbled into here?!
*backs away slowly*
Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 am
Right there with you. I don’t really do twitter so I missed the whole drama.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Ara
Great post Sarah.
On one hand, we want it to go away because no one likes ugly drama.
On the other hand, it’s like the elephant in the room. So just go forth and talk about it.
Sometimes we forget the things we learn in college. Hell, I remember questioning some of the papers I wrote in college because of my summaries of outside sources. So I’d overcompensate by using too many quotation marks and internal citations.
Now, we just all have to be careful with things like this in the future.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Gungor
Kristi thanks for this post. I believe everyone can make mistakes and I know that most of the bloggers do so, but they don’t see their mistakes, they just like talking about the one who makes the mistake. You are a popular and a very successful blogger also I must add that you are a pioneer. I am a literature graduate and I have lots of students doing the same mistakes over and over again. Doing mistakes is a good way of learning, we mustn’t afraid about it. But criticism cannot be done by everyone especially if they don’t see their mistakes. I really want to say one more thing, some bloggers are copying the IMM without giving you credit as it is written one of the comments above, I think that is the worst crime. Kristi, I hope you’ll keep on doing the good work,
best wishes from Turkey.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Kris
I am so disgusted by the way everybody is commenting on this post. First of all Kristi addressed everything she needed to last month. She is trying to move on with her life, as well as those readers that have chosen to keep coming back here. I think Sara has a choice as well on where she guest posts and I as a reader of this blog do not need to see this disgusting thread on a great post. Please, let everybody get on with their lives. Nobody is going to be happy until they bring her down and Kristi has every right to keep doing what she is doing, she has always had a love for reading and sharing her thoughts on the book world. We all deserve a break from this mess without pushing Kristi to insanity, and she still has loyal friends and followers that read this blog! I am in no way defending what she did, but I defend till the end for her to have a chance to move on from it. We all need to move past this.
Tammy Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 12:05 am
I second this! It would be great to read the post and not have to scan through a bunch of negative comments. Stay off the site if you have an issue – isn’t that what the point was supposed to be in the first place? Let those of us that have choosen to come back and read the freedom to do so without being smacked in the head with your bitterness.
azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 am
I am so disgusted by the way so many seem to ignore the reality of the facts. First of all, Kristi has yet to apologize in full, without any of that “I don’t know how it happened” BS–plagiarism doesn’t “happen.” To plagiarize is to make a conscious choice and take deliberate action.
Kristi Diehm is trying to ‘move on with her life’ so who cares about the people she stole from? How dare they be bitter?
How dare people feel that this whole thing is an insult to them and a farce?
Unfounded bitterness, indeed.
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jay Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:47 pm
The only people she should apologize to are the blogs in question.
Everyone is acting like some internet police. You have no authority over her. You’re not her mother and you’re not her school teacher. She’s a grown ass woman who knows what she did wrong.
If she’s going to apologize, it should be in a private message to those fashion blogs. However, it seems that when/if she does, they will parade it around the internet and make an even bigger spectacle.
Isn’t that how cyber-bullying works?
azteclady Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 5:33 pm
She’s a grown ass woman, then she can actually address all of this, instead of letting you and others speak for her, no?
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Kate @ Kate's Book Nook
Twitter: katesbooksnooks
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May 22nd, 2012 at 1:03 am
If there was a like button, I would be pressing it. Thank you for this post. I hate seeing all the negative posts and I hope that Kristi doesn’t shut down the blog because of it. Everyone has made mistakes. I bet some of my college papers danced on the line of plagiarism. Mistakes happen. Apologize and then everyone move on!
AV
Twitter: anjanavasan
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May 22nd, 2012 at 1:49 am
ditto, these comments are really harsh. It makes me think that people want her to fall down and rip her to shreds and I don’t understand why because most of these people were readers of her blog. They obviously liked her blog? Well, I still come here because I don’t believe in this kind of anger/hatred and The Story Siren is still an awesome way to find out about new releases. Give Kristi and her readers a little respect and don’t use her blog to thrash her. If you have an issue, e-mail her. Nobody likes to see people say cruel things on your blog post and be judged if you take those comments down.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jen D.
Twitter: notnowimreading
So much for the whole boycotting thing.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Citra
I believe it’s a good idea to invite the two fashion bloggers you plagiarized from to have their say about it, here in your blog.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Dead Trees and Silver Screens
Twitter: deadtreesblog
I think the author of this post was not trying to take credit for The Little Mermaid picture, she was trying to make a joke. Obviously it would be nice to give credit to Disney, but did anybody really think she was trying to take credit for Ariel? Come on people….
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
AV
Twitter: anjanavasan
I’ve never commented about this but I have to now because I find it painful to see these harsh comments, they actually make me cringe.
Wow, I didn’t realize people could be so..mean. You made a mistake, you apologized for it and you’re obviously sorry you did it or you wouldn’t bring up this topic again. I get that people are still mad about it. They should talk about it and you’ve given them the chance to now but instead there’s still a lot of anger. This is you, reaching out because you care, I get it.
I love getting to know other bloggers, it makes the blogging experience so much better when you have people to talk to or ask for help. I think they’re amazing people and I honestly think of them as friends. If I screwed up, I guess they would be mad at me too but I’d count on them to forgive me, help me get back up. Same goes for my readers because really, in the end you blog for your readers right? Wouldn’t happen without their support. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think I have the right to judge someone so harshly when I’m flawed myself – maybe not in the same way but I’m sure I screw up in other ways. I get that people are mad..but maybe they should try to talk about it and find it in themselves to..forgive a little? You guys, all of you, it’s hurtful when someone’s on your blog, commenting on it and yelling things at you. I think as a human, Kristi deserves a bit more respect than that, wouldn’t you expect the same thing?
Mireya Reply:
May 22nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
“I think as a human, Kristi deserves a bit more respect than that, wouldn’t you expect the same thing?”
I was not going to get involved, but the above gave me the final push. Respect is earned. So far, from an outsider’s perspective, I can tell you that she has NOT earned that respect that you seem to believe she deserves.
As a victim of bullying myself, the one thing that has disturbed me the most is her condoning the bullying actions of her own friends/fans against those the owner of this blog wronged. Yes, she apologized, fine… but did she tell those people that they were being bullies… in one word: No. She’s as much of a bully if not worse, for not telling those people to stop and even worse, for not telling those people that they were wrong.
Bullying is not a joke, and if you feel this blog’s owner is being bully, I suggest that you look first at her own actions. Those actions alone illustrate quite well what the word “bullying” means.
Respect? Again, that is something that is EARNED. And this blog’s owner is falling short.
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Laura
The artist deserves credit. If they’ve posted their work online, chances are they’re trying to build an audience for that work. So if you like what they’ve done, why not help them out and include their name and a link to their website or deviantART, flickr, blog, etc.?
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On Monday, May 21st 2012
Victoria Scott (@VictoriaScottYA)
Twitter: VictoriaScottYA
Great post! Love that you’re doing these, Kristi!
On Monday, May 21st 2012
Jasmine Rose
Twitter: ARoomWithBooks
Oh my golly. The picture says “The Little Mermaid [copyright sign] Disney” right under it.
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azteclady Reply:
May 23rd, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Yeah, it didn’t when the post was first published. Just as there was no introductory post below it.
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